{"id":1988,"date":"2009-12-31T04:06:40","date_gmt":"2009-12-31T03:06:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/?p=1988"},"modified":"2009-12-31T04:07:09","modified_gmt":"2009-12-31T03:07:09","slug":"some-ideas-about-formalizing-questions-and-answers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/2009\/12\/some-ideas-about-formalizing-questions-and-answers\/","title":{"rendered":"Some ideas about formalizing questions and answers"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- \t\t@page { margin: 2cm } \t\tP { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } \t\tH3 { margin-top: 0.42cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; background: transparent } \t\tH3.western { font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; font-size: 12pt; so-language: en-US } \t\tH3.cjk { font-family: \"MS Mincho\" } \t\tP.sdfootnote { margin-left: 0.5cm; text-indent: -0.5cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; font-size: 10pt } \t\tA:link { so-language: zxx } \t\tA.sdfootnoteanc { font-size: 57% } -->Formalization of questions and answers is not a much discussed nor studied topic. Though there is a branch of logic dealing with it, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.staff.amu.edu.pl\/%7Ep_lup\/4l4ntur1n6\/el.html\">erotetic logics<\/a>. I admit not to have read much on the issue, in fact, almost nothing. This is because there is almost nothing on the internet about it, and the few books that deal with it are not to find in the danish library system.<\/p>\n<p>The idea is to formalize questions and the answering of such. With formalization we have a framework for understanding when a question has been answered. It seems to me that we only have our intuitions to rely on until a relevant logic has been created, and intuitions are too often not trust worthy.<\/p>\n<h3 lang=\"en-US\">Formalization of questions<\/h3>\n<p>Consider the question:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\">Q1. Who is credited with discovering the element Uranium?<\/p>\n<p>How should we formalize this? How about:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\">Q1F. (\u2203x)(Ux\u2227x=?)<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\">Ux \u2261  is credited with discovering the element Uranium<\/p>\n<p>Though there is a hidden second condition for a correct answer to this question. Note the word \u201cwho\u201d. That that word is used implies that the answer refers to a person. So we may add:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\">Q1F*. (\u2203x)(Ux\u2227Px\u2227x=?)<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\">Ux \u2261  is credited with discovering the element Uranium<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\">Px \u2261 is a person<\/p>\n<p>Consider a more complex question such as:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\">Q2. Which scientist is credited with discovering the element Uranium and whose name is Martin and who is german?<\/p>\n<p>Formalization:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\">Q2F. (\u2203x)(Ux\u2227Sx\u2227Mx\u2227Gx\u2227x=?)<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\">Ux \u2261  is credited with discovering the element Uranium<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\">Sx \u2261 is a scientist<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\">Mx \u2261 is named Martin<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\">Gx \u2261 is german<\/p>\n<p>Note how we can now formally make sense of\/explain complexity of questions. Complexity correlates with the number of predicates in the formalization. But since there are multiple possible formalizations one need to be careful with this correlation. It may be the case that it corresponds perfectly or nearly so with the deepest possible formalization of a question.<\/p>\n<h3 lang=\"en-US\">Answers to questions<\/h3>\n<p>When should we say that an answer has been answered truthfully? Iff substituting the question mark \u201c?\u201d with the answer gives a true formula.<a name=\"sdfootnote1anc\" href=\"#sdfootnote1sym\"><sup>1<\/sup><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Consider the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Uranium#Discovery\">correct answer<\/a> to the first question above:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\">A1. Martin Heinrich Klaproth<\/p>\n<p>And its formalization:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\">A1F. m<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\">m \u2261 Martin Heinrich Klaproth<\/p>\n<p>Now substituting \u201c?\u201d with \u201cm\u201d:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\">Q1W. (\u2203x)(Ux\u2227x=m)<\/p>\n<p>(Q1W) is true, therefore, the answer is correct.<\/p>\n<p>Similarly with the second question:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\">Q2W. (\u2203x)(Ux\u2227Sx\u2227Mx\u2227Gx\u2227x=m)<\/p>\n<p>Again this is true.<\/p>\n<h3 lang=\"en-US\">Translating to Logic English<\/h3>\n<p>Logic English (LE) being the language where to formalizations are translated, as with propositional logic and predicate logic. This is a precise language that corresponds perfectly with logic. (Another thing that I am working on.)<\/p>\n<p>Consider again the first question unanswered and answered:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\">Q1F. (\u2203x)(Ux\u2227x=?)<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\">Q1W. (\u2203x)(Ux\u2227x=m)<\/p>\n<p>I propose this translation to LE:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\">There exists one x such that x is credited with discovering the element Uranium and x is identical with who?<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\">There exists one x such that x is credited with discovering the element Uranium and x is identical with Martin Heinrich Klaproth.<\/p>\n<h3 lang=\"en-US\">Questions as expressing propositions<\/h3>\n<p>It is clear from my chosen formalization and translation that I think questions express propositions. So they can express something that is true or false like other sentences. This should not be too surprising. Consider the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fallacyfiles.org\/loadques.html\">loaded question fallacy<\/a>. That happens <em>exactly<\/em><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"> when one asks a question that expresses a false proposition. A proposition expressed by the question is false iff it is not the case that there exists an x such that [predicates]. The clause with the \u201cx=?\u201d is ignored when evaluating truth values.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">So, by accepting that some questions express propositions we can make sense of the loaded question fallacy.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3 lang=\"en-US\"><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">Multiple correct answers<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">It is possible formalize the multiple correct answers aspect of questions. Consider the question:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\"><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">Q3. What is x identical with in the equation x<\/span><sup><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">2<\/span><\/sup><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">=4?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">Formally:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\"><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">Q3F. (\u2203x)(x<\/span><sup><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">2<\/span><\/sup><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">=4\u2227x=?)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">There are two correct answers to this question:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\"><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">A3a. 2<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\"><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">A3b. -2<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">Substituting \u201c?\u201d with the answers produces:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\"><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">Q3Wa. (\u2203x)(x<\/span><sup><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">2<\/span><\/sup><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">=4\u2227x=2)<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\"><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">Q3Wb. (\u2203x)(x<\/span><sup><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">2<\/span><\/sup><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">=4\u2227x=-2)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">Which are both true formula. So, there are more than one true answer. We could formalize this as (with help from set theory):<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\"><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">Q3F*. (\u2203x)(x<\/span><sup><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">2<\/span><\/sup><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">=4)\u2227((\u2200y)(y<\/span><sup><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">2<\/span><\/sup><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">=4\u21d2y\u2208A\u2227M<\/span><sub><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">A<\/span><\/sub><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">&gt;1))\u2227(x=?)<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\"><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">M<\/span><sub><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">S<\/span><\/sub><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"> \u2261 the number of members of S<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\"><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">A \u2261 (the set of) answers<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">We can also translate this to LE:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\"><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">There exists an x such that x<\/span><sup><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">2<\/span><\/sup><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">=4, and for all y, that y<\/span><sup><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">2<\/span><\/sup><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">=4 logically implies that y is a member of A and the number of members of A is more than 1, and x is identical with what?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">It seems to me to be best to always have the question clause \u201cx=?\u201d at the end of a formula. Otherwise a translation of the formula into LE would produce a sentence that has a question mark  in the middle of it. That would be grammatically incorrect. I strive to make LE grammatically correct or close to. The goal being that LE is readable by people that can read english.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">An idea is to get rid of the first part of (Q3F*) and only keep the part with the universal quantifier (\u2200x), but that would produce problems with the question clause at the end. Like this:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.25cm;\"><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">Q3F**. (\u2200y)(y<\/span><sup><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">2<\/span><\/sup><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">=4\u21d2y\u2208A\u2227M<\/span><sub><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">A<\/span><\/sub><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">&gt;1)\u2227(x=?)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u201c<span style=\"font-style: normal;\">x\u201d is not mentioned at all before the question clause at the end.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-style: normal;\">Notes<br \/>\n<\/span><\/h3>\n<div id=\"sdfootnote1\">\n<p><a name=\"sdfootnote1sym\" href=\"#sdfootnote1anc\">1<\/a>More \tprecisely, a formula that when interpreted with the supplied \tinterpretation keys expresses a true proposition.<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Formalization of questions and answers is not a much discussed nor studied topic. Though there is a branch of logic dealing with it, erotetic logics. I admit not to have read much on the issue, in fact, almost nothing. 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