{"id":2996,"date":"2012-06-04T03:32:45","date_gmt":"2012-06-04T02:32:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/?p=2996"},"modified":"2012-06-04T03:32:45","modified_gmt":"2012-06-04T02:32:45","slug":"men-attractiveness-ratings-and-women-who-look-like-they-are-easy-to-get-to-bed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/2012\/06\/men-attractiveness-ratings-and-women-who-look-like-they-are-easy-to-get-to-bed\/","title":{"rendered":"Men, attractiveness ratings and women who look like they are easy to get to bed"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A friend of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/julius.daugbjerg.bjerrekaer\">mine<\/a> mentioned this topic to me. He got it from <em>The Young Turks<\/em> a youtube news commentary channel. The video is shown below:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/2gmt0_teG3I\" frameborder=\"0\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Actually, i normally kinda like <em>TYT<\/em>, but in this case, they clearly do not understand the relevant science. Also, the asian guy who talks about societies where there are completely different mating patterns, yeah well, <a href=\"http:\/\/xkcd.com\/285\/\">[citation needed]<\/a>. I have heard too many of such claims and rarely seen any evidence. The times i have heard of something specific, it didn&#8217;t pan out. Two examples: 1) the one mentioned in the norwegian series <a href=\"http:\/\/genusnytt.wordpress.com\/2011\/12\/03\/se-hjernevask-avsloja-genusmyterna\/\"><em>Hjernevask <\/em><\/a>(meaning Brainwashing) about a society (<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Etoro_people\">Etoro people<\/a>) with a peculiar homosexual-ritual; 2) <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Amazons\">Amazons<\/a>, a society where women dominate, are warrior etc., questionable historical data.<\/p>\n<p>Slate has a better article about this: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.slate.com\/articles\/health_and_science\/science\/2012\/05\/dumb_women_do_men_find_them_more_attractive_.single.html\">http:\/\/www.slate.com\/articles\/health_and_science\/science\/2012\/05\/dumb_women_do_men_find_them_more_attractive_.single.html<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Slate is so nice as to actually link to the studies without a <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Paywall\">pay-wall<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The full citations for the two papers are:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Sexual exploitability: observable cues and their link to sexual attraction<br \/>\nCari D. Goetz, Judith A. Easton, David M.G. Lewis, David M. Buss<br \/>\nEvolution and Human Behavior xx (2012) xxx\u2013xxx<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/Cues-to-Exploitability.pdf\">Cues to Exploitability<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Exploitative male mating strategies: Personality, mating orientation,<br \/>\nand relationship status<br \/>\nDavid M.G. Lewis, Judith A. Easton, Cari D. Goetz, David M. Buss<br \/>\nPersonality and Individual Differences 52 (2012) 139\u2013143<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/PAID_exploit.pdf\">PAID_exploit<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Some quotations from the first paper:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">2. Method<br \/>\n2.1. Participants<br \/>\nParticipants were students enrolled in an introductory<br \/>\npsychology course and received partial course credit for their<br \/>\nparticipation. Seventy-six males participated, ranging in age<br \/>\nfrom 18 to 47 (M=19.59\u00b13.76). To avoid fatigue effects,<br \/>\nparticipants were randomly assigned to one of three groups.<br \/>\nOne group viewed a randomized set of 36 photographed<br \/>\nwomen (out of the total of 110), and the other two groups<br \/>\neach viewed a randomized set of 37. Each group constituted<br \/>\napproximately one third of the total participant sample.<\/p>\n<p>-.- This is always the worst part of these studies. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.psychologytoday.com\/blog\/psyched\/201012\/weird-science-we-are-the-weirdest-people-in-the-world\">American university students are simply not a good sample to generalize from<\/a>. I wish that psychologists were forced to 1) draw from at least two different university student samples, so that we don&#8217;t just see studies on psychology students; 2) draw on at least one non-university sample, preferably a sample that is somewhat representative of the general population. All of these samples shud be of n&gt;200. If necessary, they can do multiple studies on psychology students to improve the sample size. This rush to publish is annoying. It is better to do <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Slow_Science\">slow science<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Although our sample was limited to university students,<br \/>\nwe expect the ability to detect cues to sexual exploitability to<br \/>\nbe universally present. Future research should include men<br \/>\nfrom different age groups and socioeconomic backgrounds.<br \/>\nOne benefit from using a young, university-attending sample<br \/>\nis that these men may be particularly sensitive to cues to<br \/>\nexploitability because (1) they are frequently in contact with<br \/>\nyounger women who exhibit more of these cues because of<br \/>\ntheir youthful appearance and (2) they have lower status and<br \/>\nfewer resources and may experience more difficulty attract-<br \/>\ning a high-quality mate through nonexploitative means.<\/p>\n<p>Generally, i think it is an overall sound study, except for the sample, which is dodgy. It definitely did not deserve the bad treatment it got by <em>TYT<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>The second study does no better on the sample problem:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">2. Method<br \/>\n2.1. Participants<br \/>\nSeventy-two heterosexual males, ages 18\u201347 (M = 19.61,<br \/>\nSD = 3.86), enrolled in an introductory psychology course at a large,<br \/>\npublic university in the southwestern United States participated in<br \/>\nthe current study. Thirty men reported they were currently in-<br \/>\nvolved in an exclusive relationship. To avoid fatigue effects, partic-<br \/>\nipants were randomly assigned to one of three groups, each of<br \/>\nwhich viewed approximately one-third of 110 photographs (one<br \/>\ngroup viewed 36 photographs and the other two viewed 37;<br \/>\napproximately 40 photographs could be viewed and rated in an<br \/>\nhour-long session). Photographs within each group were displayed<br \/>\nin the same order across participants. All participants provided in-<br \/>\nformed consent and received partial course credit for their<br \/>\nparticipation.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>As far as i can tell, all of this makes totally sense in an evo psych framework. The finding that easiness correlations positively with ratings of short-term partners but negatively with long-term partners is a prediction of evo psych that seems not very obvious on any blank slate model.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A friend of mine mentioned this topic to me. He got it from The Young Turks a youtube news commentary channel. The video is shown below: Actually, i normally kinda like TYT, but in this case, they clearly do not understand the relevant science. Also, the asian guy who talks about societies where there are [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":17,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1624],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2996","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-evolutionary-psychology","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2996","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/17"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2996"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2996\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2999,"href":"https:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2996\/revisions\/2999"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2996"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2996"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2996"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}