{"id":3372,"date":"2012-11-15T11:40:25","date_gmt":"2012-11-15T10:40:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/?p=3372"},"modified":"2012-11-15T11:40:25","modified_gmt":"2012-11-15T10:40:25","slug":"conversation-with-miao-about-guidance-selection-of-students-epistemology-of-getting-rid-of-bad-meme-complexes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/2012\/11\/conversation-with-miao-about-guidance-selection-of-students-epistemology-of-getting-rid-of-bad-meme-complexes\/","title":{"rendered":"Conversation with Miao about guidance, selection of students, epistemology of getting rid of bad meme complexes"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[11:22:42] The Midget &#8211; Miao: Who the fuck is Isstsidwmnh?<br \/>\n[11:23:09] The Midget &#8211; Miao: [05:52:19] Isstsidwmnh: We have no capacity to falsify the existence of reality. That does not mean we throw away reality. In fact\u2026 that means we embrace it!<br \/>\n[05:52:32] Isstsidwmnh: If something is too obviously true, then my only criticism is that it will get boring too soon.<br \/>\n[05:57:04] Isstsidwmnh: But, anyway, all this seems to be scientific values projected onto what can be acceptable described as a non-scientific work.<br \/>\n[11:23:12] The Midget &#8211; Miao: WTF.<br \/>\n[11:23:35] Emil &#8211; Deleet: its I said stupid things so i dont want my name here<br \/>\n[11:23:37] Emil &#8211; Deleet: -guy<br \/>\n[11:24:11] The Midget &#8211; Miao: At least he knows he said stupid things<br \/>\n[11:24:17] The Midget &#8211; Miao: I stopped reading after that part<br \/>\n[11:24:22] Emil &#8211; Deleet: dont do that<br \/>\n[11:24:30] Emil &#8211; Deleet: u need to stop stopping reading too early<br \/>\n[11:24:45] The Midget &#8211; Miao: You are very patient with him!<br \/>\n[11:25:15] Emil &#8211; Deleet: im a very patient person<br \/>\n[11:25:16] Emil &#8211; Deleet: err<br \/>\n[11:26:02] The Midget &#8211; Miao: In that conversation you actually sounded very nurturing and patient<br \/>\n[11:26:15] The Midget &#8211; Miao: which is quite different from my impression of you<br \/>\n[11:28:17] Emil &#8211; Deleet: im a guiding light for lesser minds<br \/>\n[11:28:39] Emil &#8211; Deleet: if i had zero tolerance like u, then they wudnt develop at all<br \/>\n[11:28:49] The Midget &#8211; Miao: Yes, but you are also very selective of who you talk to<br \/>\nYou don&#8217;t talk to ALL stupid people who happen to cross your path<br \/>\n[11:28:56] Emil &#8211; Deleet: ofc not<br \/>\n[11:28:58] Emil &#8211; Deleet: waste of time<br \/>\n[11:29:05 | Edited 11:29:09] The Midget &#8211; Miao: Yes, so what are the selection requirements?<br \/>\n[11:29:11] Emil &#8211; Deleet: it isnt even high iq<br \/>\n[11:29:12] Emil &#8211; Deleet: :P<br \/>\n[11:29:26] Emil &#8211; Deleet: those two filosofy students that i know, they arent high<br \/>\n[11:29:47] Emil &#8211; Deleet: but they show tremendous progress<br \/>\n[11:29:53] The Midget &#8211; Miao: Yup, what I meant was:<br \/>\nWhy are you more kind towards a Freud supporter than a Christian (for example)<br \/>\n[11:29:54] Emil &#8211; Deleet: what they needed was guidance<br \/>\n[11:30:09] Emil &#8211; Deleet: and a bit of open mindedness and willingness to read a lot of stuff<br \/>\n[11:30:17] The Midget &#8211; Miao: Hm.<br \/>\n[11:30:21] Emil &#8211; Deleet: xtians are usually hopeless<br \/>\n[11:30:21] The Midget &#8211; Miao: Fair enough<br \/>\n[11:30:28] Emil &#8211; Deleet: freudian supporters not always<br \/>\n[11:30:49] Emil &#8211; Deleet: the freudian complex (HAH!) is more easy to get rid off<br \/>\n[11:31:23] Emil &#8211; Deleet: in terms of web of belief, its becus it doesnt integrate so well with the persons other beliefs<br \/>\n[11:31:45] Emil &#8211; Deleet: hence, easier to reject &#8211; becus it requires a smaller number of changes to beliefs and their connections<br \/>\n[11:32:07] Emil &#8211; Deleet: a smaller overhaul of the web of belief, to say it in a more figurative way<br \/>\n[11:32:20] The Midget &#8211; Miao: Understandable. If you look at philosophers of religion like Platinga and an Inwagen you&#8217;d realise that their arguments are often very convoluted<br \/>\n[11:32:37] The Midget &#8211; Miao: because their religious beliefs are very inconsistent with what they know<br \/>\n[11:33:03] The Midget &#8211; Miao: So they come up with a lot of very twisted arguments to try to weave a coherent whole<br \/>\n[11:33:26] Emil &#8211; Deleet: i think Plantingas modal ontological argument is rather easy to deal with &#8211; it &#8216;only&#8217; requires some understanding of equivocation, alethic (S5) modal logic !<br \/>\n[11:33:42] Emil &#8211; Deleet: thats little compared to some other arguments.<br \/>\n[11:33:54] Emil &#8211; Deleet: say, arguments from design require a lot of biology, cosmology etc. to deal with<br \/>\n[11:34:26] The Midget &#8211; Miao: I forgot the exact contents of his modal ontological argument<br \/>\n[11:34:48] Emil &#8211; Deleet: http:\/\/analyticabstraction.blogspot.dk\/2007\/11\/philosophy-of-religion-2-natural_14.html<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[11:22:42] The Midget &#8211; Miao: Who the fuck is Isstsidwmnh? [11:23:09] The Midget &#8211; Miao: [05:52:19] Isstsidwmnh: We have no capacity to falsify the existence of reality. That does not mean we throw away reality. In fact\u2026 that means we embrace it! [05:52:32] Isstsidwmnh: If something is too obviously true, then my only criticism is [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":17,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[27,5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3372","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-epistemology","category-dialogues","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3372","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/17"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3372"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3372\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3373,"href":"https:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3372\/revisions\/3373"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3372"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3372"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/emilkirkegaard.dk\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3372"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}